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		<title>Comment on A Game of Forms by Dana King</title>
		<link>http://pitchersandpoets.com/2012/05/10/a-game-of-forms/comment-page-1/#comment-6263</link>
		<dc:creator>Dana King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 18:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no patience with catchers who block the plate without the ball. The rules are the same for all bases. On the other hand, the plate (or any base) almost has to be blocked in order to apply a tag, even if only with the glove. Remember leaning as a kid how to tag a runner at the bag: catch the ball, and drop your glove hand to the ground between the base and the runner. make him tag himself out. Since the runner does not have to stop at home plate as he does at other bases--and the catcher cannot guarantee where he will have to receive the throw--his best chance for a tag is often by standing in front of the plate and essentially letting the runner tag himself out. The rules also say the fielder/catcher must hold the ball for it to be a legal tag, strongly implying the runner is allowed to use force to knock the ball loose. 

We&#039;re left with two well-defined positions: the fielder cannot block the base/plate without the ball for a tag, and the runner may not go out of his way to make contact. What remains is the fielder/catcher asserting his right to make a play as it should be made, and the runner exercising his right to the base. Occasionally, this will cause a conflict with the laws of physics; two solid objects may not occupy the same space at the same time.

I don;t like to see any more contact than necessary in baseball, either. But the game stems from throwing a hard ball toward another relatively unprotected person at 90+ mph. It&#039;s a rough game at its core.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no patience with catchers who block the plate without the ball. The rules are the same for all bases. On the other hand, the plate (or any base) almost has to be blocked in order to apply a tag, even if only with the glove. Remember leaning as a kid how to tag a runner at the bag: catch the ball, and drop your glove hand to the ground between the base and the runner. make him tag himself out. Since the runner does not have to stop at home plate as he does at other bases&#8211;and the catcher cannot guarantee where he will have to receive the throw&#8211;his best chance for a tag is often by standing in front of the plate and essentially letting the runner tag himself out. The rules also say the fielder/catcher must hold the ball for it to be a legal tag, strongly implying the runner is allowed to use force to knock the ball loose. </p>
<p>We&#8217;re left with two well-defined positions: the fielder cannot block the base/plate without the ball for a tag, and the runner may not go out of his way to make contact. What remains is the fielder/catcher asserting his right to make a play as it should be made, and the runner exercising his right to the base. Occasionally, this will cause a conflict with the laws of physics; two solid objects may not occupy the same space at the same time.</p>
<p>I don;t like to see any more contact than necessary in baseball, either. But the game stems from throwing a hard ball toward another relatively unprotected person at 90+ mph. It&#8217;s a rough game at its core.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Game of Forms by TS Flynn</title>
		<link>http://pitchersandpoets.com/2012/05/10/a-game-of-forms/comment-page-1/#comment-6252</link>
		<dc:creator>TS Flynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 03:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I say Wieters chose the collision, I mean he stayed at the plate to receive the ball. Like Posey last season, he did so from a vulnerable position, but unlike Posey he was prepared for a collision and he turned from the impact. Byrd made a clean play. He has every right to be within an arm&#039;s length of either side of the plate. His elbows went up because he was going into a classic blocking position with arms crossed. He did not throw an elbow, he protected himself (and Wieters) by crossing his arms. It happened very fast. As I mentioned on Twitter, this play is different than A-Rod&#039;s because it&#039;s at home plate, where a run is at stake, and because the catcher is protected with armor and fully anticipating contact. If Wieters doesn&#039;t want the play, he wouldn&#039;t drop to his knees and turn into the baseline, he would field the ball from his feet and try a sweep tag.

Human nature and competition can be corralled. Baseball polices itself pretty well, and Hamels was crushed with criticism. Yours is the only criticism I&#039;ve seen of Byrd&#039;s play. Most telling of all, is that Wieters looks Byrd in the eye after the call has been made, and taps him on the hip with his glove as if to say, &quot;We&#039;re cool, that was good old fashioned hardball.&quot; 

I should really say, though, that I like your essay a lot. It gets at the ways we watch the game and the ways it makes us think. It got me thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I say Wieters chose the collision, I mean he stayed at the plate to receive the ball. Like Posey last season, he did so from a vulnerable position, but unlike Posey he was prepared for a collision and he turned from the impact. Byrd made a clean play. He has every right to be within an arm&#8217;s length of either side of the plate. His elbows went up because he was going into a classic blocking position with arms crossed. He did not throw an elbow, he protected himself (and Wieters) by crossing his arms. It happened very fast. As I mentioned on Twitter, this play is different than A-Rod&#8217;s because it&#8217;s at home plate, where a run is at stake, and because the catcher is protected with armor and fully anticipating contact. If Wieters doesn&#8217;t want the play, he wouldn&#8217;t drop to his knees and turn into the baseline, he would field the ball from his feet and try a sweep tag.</p>
<p>Human nature and competition can be corralled. Baseball polices itself pretty well, and Hamels was crushed with criticism. Yours is the only criticism I&#8217;ve seen of Byrd&#8217;s play. Most telling of all, is that Wieters looks Byrd in the eye after the call has been made, and taps him on the hip with his glove as if to say, &#8220;We&#8217;re cool, that was good old fashioned hardball.&#8221; </p>
<p>I should really say, though, that I like your essay a lot. It gets at the ways we watch the game and the ways it makes us think. It got me thinking.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Game of Forms by Patrick</title>
		<link>http://pitchersandpoets.com/2012/05/10/a-game-of-forms/comment-page-1/#comment-6250</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 20:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve watched the replay a few times now, and what I see just doesn&#039;t seem to match what you saw.  &lt;a href = &quot;http://pitchersandpoets.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/wieters.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This&lt;/a&gt; is the best screen capture I can get, right as Wieters has caught the relay and is turning toward the runner.  From my vantage, he looks to be at least a foot in front of the plate.  As Byrd slides, his feet do go directly to the plate, but he twists his upper body, and you can already see his elbows going up to make contact with Wieters.

Byrd has obviously made his choice.  But to be honest, I don&#039;t see how Wieters can avoid this collision; he is in the position he must be in to make a  clean tag (and is instead forced to brace himself for impact).  

Competition and human nature can be, to some degree, corralled.  We saw it earlier this week when Cole Hamels was suspended for intentionally throwing at Bryce Harper.  There&#039;s always going to be a fine line between competition and sportsmanship, but it&#039;s a line I believe we have the power to moderate, and discuss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve watched the replay a few times now, and what I see just doesn&#8217;t seem to match what you saw.  <a href = "http://pitchersandpoets.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/wieters.jpg" rel="nofollow">This</a> is the best screen capture I can get, right as Wieters has caught the relay and is turning toward the runner.  From my vantage, he looks to be at least a foot in front of the plate.  As Byrd slides, his feet do go directly to the plate, but he twists his upper body, and you can already see his elbows going up to make contact with Wieters.</p>
<p>Byrd has obviously made his choice.  But to be honest, I don&#8217;t see how Wieters can avoid this collision; he is in the position he must be in to make a  clean tag (and is instead forced to brace himself for impact).  </p>
<p>Competition and human nature can be, to some degree, corralled.  We saw it earlier this week when Cole Hamels was suspended for intentionally throwing at Bryce Harper.  There&#8217;s always going to be a fine line between competition and sportsmanship, but it&#8217;s a line I believe we have the power to moderate, and discuss.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Game of Forms by TS Flynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>TS Flynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 18:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But Wieters *was* able &quot;to flick his wrist and tap the bull as it charged toward him.&quot; He chose instead to block the plate, just as Byrd chose to collide with him. Players choose to avoid collisions at the plate all the time--probably more often than they choose to collide. And that&#039;s when &quot;baseball is more symbolic, less tangible than it once was.&quot; There are elements of baseball that are easily romanticized, but to romanticize the game in toto is to ignore the truth of competition and human nature, a truth that leads two grown men to risk their livelihoods for a single run in early May.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But Wieters *was* able &#8220;to flick his wrist and tap the bull as it charged toward him.&#8221; He chose instead to block the plate, just as Byrd chose to collide with him. Players choose to avoid collisions at the plate all the time&#8211;probably more often than they choose to collide. And that&#8217;s when &#8220;baseball is more symbolic, less tangible than it once was.&#8221; There are elements of baseball that are easily romanticized, but to romanticize the game in toto is to ignore the truth of competition and human nature, a truth that leads two grown men to risk their livelihoods for a single run in early May.</p>
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		<title>Comment on P&amp;P Reading Club: Bryan Harvey on The Art of Fielding Chapters 34– 52 by Ellen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ellen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 03:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;this book is so modern that, at times, I feel like I’ve already read it&quot; is starting to give me trouble.  Specifically, I feel I&#039;ve already read it in approximately 200 issues of the New Yorker that graced my parents&#039; guest bathroom throughout the 1970s.  The young divorcee, the infatuated college professor in his twilight, the cute character names . . . zzzz.  

DAMN, I loved the first hundred pages of this book.  Loved each of the people I met there and hoped nothing bad would ever happen to them.  But by that, I thought I meant injury, tragedy, and heartbreak, not tumbling into cliche.  

I&#039;m also kind of annoyed that Affenlight&#039;s obsession with O is presented as a done deal, rather than shown in its coming alive.  I think if their scenes happened before our eyes, and if they were done well (which Harbach is certainly capable of), I might root for them a bit.  

Oh, well.  Will stick it out for thost first hundred pages, for Aparicio&#039;s Art of Fielding, and in hopes of another wonder like Pella&#039;s first meeting with Chef Spirodocus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;this book is so modern that, at times, I feel like I’ve already read it&#8221; is starting to give me trouble.  Specifically, I feel I&#8217;ve already read it in approximately 200 issues of the New Yorker that graced my parents&#8217; guest bathroom throughout the 1970s.  The young divorcee, the infatuated college professor in his twilight, the cute character names . . . zzzz.  </p>
<p>DAMN, I loved the first hundred pages of this book.  Loved each of the people I met there and hoped nothing bad would ever happen to them.  But by that, I thought I meant injury, tragedy, and heartbreak, not tumbling into cliche.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m also kind of annoyed that Affenlight&#8217;s obsession with O is presented as a done deal, rather than shown in its coming alive.  I think if their scenes happened before our eyes, and if they were done well (which Harbach is certainly capable of), I might root for them a bit.  </p>
<p>Oh, well.  Will stick it out for thost first hundred pages, for Aparicio&#8217;s Art of Fielding, and in hopes of another wonder like Pella&#8217;s first meeting with Chef Spirodocus.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Rico Brogna Disappears by David Roth by Barry Frey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry Frey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 18:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We remember Rico in Philadelphia with great respect for both his ability and his character. God bless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We remember Rico in Philadelphia with great respect for both his ability and his character. God bless.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Rico Brogna Disappears by David Roth by Louise Brogna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Louise Brogna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2012 04:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read your article with interest, but, of course, anything with my son&#039;s name attached, is of great interest to me.  What times they were while he played MLB!  To my mind (and some others who really know the &#039;game&#039;),Rico was one of the best first basemen, and a clutch-hitter, too.  Now, you will say that I write with a biased pen, but it&#039;s all true.  God gave him 91/2 years in the Majors.  How generous of Him!  As my son stated just recently, it was an awesome privilege to put on the MLB uniform.  I know that he&#039;ll hold all those memories close to his heart forever.   Louise Brogna</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read your article with interest, but, of course, anything with my son&#8217;s name attached, is of great interest to me.  What times they were while he played MLB!  To my mind (and some others who really know the &#8216;game&#8217;),Rico was one of the best first basemen, and a clutch-hitter, too.  Now, you will say that I write with a biased pen, but it&#8217;s all true.  God gave him 91/2 years in the Majors.  How generous of Him!  As my son stated just recently, it was an awesome privilege to put on the MLB uniform.  I know that he&#8217;ll hold all those memories close to his heart forever.   Louise Brogna</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Power Ranking Power Rankings by Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 02:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And no power rankings are complete without the author avoiding all accountability and refusing to interact with his or her audience.  Which I have now failed to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And no power rankings are complete without the author avoiding all accountability and refusing to interact with his or her audience.  Which I have now failed to do.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Found Poetry: Jose Canseco by Paul F.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2012 02:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jose Canseco: Post-Post-Modern Poet Laureate</description>
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		<title>Comment on The Power Ranking Power Rankings by Paul F.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2012 02:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No power rankings are complete without irrational disagreement in the comments. Therefore I am here to call out your blatant anti-Yahoo bias. Just because they&#039;re a small market power-ranker doesn&#039;t mean they aren&#039;t worth paying attention to, you strumpets!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No power rankings are complete without irrational disagreement in the comments. Therefore I am here to call out your blatant anti-Yahoo bias. Just because they&#8217;re a small market power-ranker doesn&#8217;t mean they aren&#8217;t worth paying attention to, you strumpets!</p>
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